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 Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:59 pm
So I found this forum on another guild where you can be a master or a slave. And well I said I was a slave without a master (which I was) and this guy PM's me to say he wants to be my master. And so we talked for a little bit, and I decided I'd be his slave.
He has a girlfriend, but he took me as his slave anyways. ^.^ I'm very happy he's my master, he's a very good master. He's said he's glad we met, and that he's happy I'm his slave, and stuff and he's just overall a nice guy.
So he asked if I would be his slave fully, like on and off line, and of course I said yes. But we don't even live in the same time zone... And he's like 20 and I'm only 16. But more and more I feel myself beginning to attach to him. My heart skips a beat when I see that I have a new PM just at the chance that it's him, and I get giddy when he's online...
Honestly I feel like I'm in love, but I've never even heard his voice, or seen his face... And he has a girlfriend... He doesn't need me... v.v I'm only second best...
^.^ But I belong to him, and somehow I'm okay with that ^.^
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:51 pm
Many slaves begin feeling attached to their masters, most even love their masters. A master and slave relationship is one that is very close and involves a lot of trust. It's quite natural that you love him, so long as you don't try to put an end to his relationship with his girlfriend, or begin looking very disgruntled around him, it shouldn't do any harm, it just means you trust him more, and feel a deep attachment to him.
In short, it's natural for you to love him, because you trust him so much, and you do belong to him so you should have a fair amount of loyalty to him. This shouldn't harm your current relationship or him so long as you don't try to put an end to his relationship with his girlfriend, or act disgruntled, jealous, etc. when the topic of his girfriend arises.
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:15 pm
Ombrophobia So I found this forum on another guild where you can be a master or a slave. And well I said I was a slave without a master (which I was) and this guy PM's me to say he wants to be my master. And so we talked for a little bit, and I decided I'd be his slave.
He has a girlfriend, but he took me as his slave anyways. ^.^ I'm very happy he's my master, he's a very good master. He's said he's glad we met, and that he's happy I'm his slave, and stuff and he's just overall a nice guy.
So he asked if I would be his slave fully, like on and off line, and of course I said yes. But we don't even live in the same time zone... And he's like 20 and I'm only 16. But more and more I feel myself beginning to attach to him. My heart skips a beat when I see that I have a new PM just at the chance that it's him, and I get giddy when he's online...
Honestly I feel like I'm in love, but I've never even heard his voice, or seen his face... And he has a girlfriend... He doesn't need me... v.v I'm only second best...
^.^ But I belong to him, and somehow I'm okay with that ^.^ heh..sorry to say but you shouldn't take these things seriously or get attached, because in the end you will probably get heartbroken. long distance relationships don't work at all, unless you really make the effort to meet one day, and that's not safe at all(people lie), if you two do decide to do that, you have to go with a parent or someone that could protect you. and if he has a girlfriend you definitely shouldn't get attached at all.
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:52 pm
It bothers me that you would want to be a slave, but I guess that's your option. Falling in love with someone when you haven't even seen them is foolish. He's probably not what you think because he can be whoever he wants on Gaia, which is probably the reason this site has grown so much. You don't the real him, just a version of him he wants you to see. It's like if you think an actor is the character they play in real life.
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:00 pm
I've dabbled in the dom/sub, master/slave scenarios. it didnt work with me (I have too much pride) even tho it was between my husband and I. even so, I have no animosity for the life style (whatever floats their boat), but I have to say that in an online situation such a set up is silly. how can you attempt to be this for this guy in real life? that's just crazy. I understand the feelings and all, but you cannot be a true sub or slave to someone you know solely online and not in real life. especially so far away. not to mention I find it a bit creepy that a 20 year old would want a 16 year old to be a slave to him. as you are a minor, it would be totally illegal in real life and he needs to stick with girls his own age. 4 years might not seem a big deal when both people are in their 20s or 30s or older, but when one of the people is still in their mid-teens the difference is usually immense.
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:10 pm
Ha ha... I find it kinda funny that you would trust a person whos username is The_Life_Ruiner for starters... Secondly I personally hate the idea of 'Online relationships' and bieng classed as a slave or master... If you're the slave it basically means you can't even make your own decisions and have to be told... And to be the master means you can only feel superior when you have someone under you... It's pathetic... But thats me... I can't believe the actually asked if you wanted to take this little thing into the real world... You know what I can't tell you whats wright and wrong... You're 16 and should know not everyone online is who the seem to be... Under different circumstances I probably wouldn't talk to you in this way... I'd be kinder... Maybe depends... But this is a stupid way to go... Think to yourself... Do you really know this person....?
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:27 pm
Guardian1239 It bothers me that you would want to be a slave, but I guess that's your option. Falling in love with someone when you haven't even seen them is foolish. He's probably not what you think because he can be whoever he wants on Gaia, which is probably the reason this site has grown so much. You don't the real him, just a version of him he wants you to see. It's like if you think an actor is the character they play in real life.
I completely agree with you. You took the advice right out of my mouth. ^^
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:30 pm
kyoshiro2 Ha ha... I find it kinda funny that you would trust a person whos username is The_Life_Ruiner for starters... Secondly I personally hate the idea of 'Online relationships' and bieng classed as a slave or master... If you're the slave it basically means you can't even make your own decisions and have to be told... And to be the master means you can only feel superior when you have someone under you... It's pathetic... But thats me... I can't believe the actually asked if you wanted to take this little thing into the real world... You know what I can't tell you whats wright and wrong... You're 16 and should know not everyone online is who the seem to be... Under different circumstances I probably wouldn't talk to you in this way... I'd be kinder... Maybe depends... But this is a stupid way to go... Think to yourself... Do you really know this person....?
*applauds*
With all the reports in the news of rape happening over internet websites and such, even people younger than sixteen should know that no one online is completely safe to be trusted, even if you've talked to them for years.
I alos agree that "master" and "slave" relationships are ridiculous ways to gain superiority and ego.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:41 am
Um i won't say this can't work out, but it seem from the info that it most likely won't. I mean, he has a girlfriend you say. Usauly if he knows the girl in real life and doesn't know the other girl in real life he goes for the one he knows in real life. I wouldn't get my hopes up. Plus if someone is older by a few years (like 6) they find the younger one like a source of intertainment and not a real love. They find it like a kids' crush I mean. And if you don't even really know him, how do you know him? How do you know he isn't lying about his life? It's like online dating: it almost never works. Please don't do this to yourself. I doubt this will work out. Highly. Find a real guy you know. Please, I don't want to see your heart brocken. Good luck.
TashiaGirl
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:48 pm
it sounds like you've been brain washed.... thats just what it sounds like. talk to him about it. say you know of someone who has a really bad crush on theyre master and they dont know what to do...... and see what he says
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:28 pm
heh...
Master/Slave?
i dont even wanna think about the possibilities there
but i'll say this, some people find themselves attaching to an internet firned and not knowing why
where's why
that friend only knows ONE side of you - your online side,
even if you're yourself online, there's other things you leave out of that side of you
i always RP as Adam Harwell - that my Irl Name, buti always change my RPC up - it's how everytone goes online
the thing your attachign to is his polite online side,
but your little "master/slave" roleplay makes it to where you HAVE to do exactly what he says - thus why your attachment gets stronger every so often
i can only offer this advice : because of Age diff, only treat him as a really close friend, otherwise, you'll wind up getting in over your head
i say the range should be a 3-yr range
i'm 19 right now, the girl i like is a little over a year younger than me, but in April, she'll be 18
the range i've given myself is
they're one year less - ME - they're one year older
making it a three year range
20 is out of that when you're 16
set up a "liking range" - it'll make finding the "perfect" person easier
as for advice on this M/S rp,
flat out : i think it's a mistake
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:46 am
Nariko914 kyoshiro2 Ha ha... I find it kinda funny that you would trust a person whos username is The_Life_Ruiner for starters... Secondly I personally hate the idea of 'Online relationships' and bieng classed as a slave or master... If you're the slave it basically means you can't even make your own decisions and have to be told... And to be the master means you can only feel superior when you have someone under you... It's pathetic... But thats me... I can't believe the actually asked if you wanted to take this little thing into the real world... You know what I can't tell you whats wright and wrong... You're 16 and should know not everyone online is who the seem to be... Under different circumstances I probably wouldn't talk to you in this way... I'd be kinder... Maybe depends... But this is a stupid way to go... Think to yourself... Do you really know this person....?
With all the reports in the news of rape happening over internet websites and such, even people younger than sixteen should know that no one online is completely safe to be trusted, even if you've talked to them for years.
I alos agree that "master" and "slave" relationships are ridiculous ways to gain superiority and ego. I've never heard of Master and Slave relationships but it is not a good idea to have an online relationship. Its not safe in these times. He could be a 48 year old rapist. Searching for sexual predators Previous Page
Author: Buffalo News- By Dan Herbeck
Date: 3/11/2007
Despite public arrests, men from all walks of life still troll Internet for young victims
Charles E. Hawkins Jr. borrowed a van and drove all the way from Montana to Cheektowaga to have sex with a 13-year-old girl he met on the Internet.
He rented a hotel room and then drove to a fast-food restaurant where the girl was supposed to meet him. The girl wasn’t there, but a team of FBI agents and Cheektowaga cops was waiting to arrest him.
“I didn’t do anything . . . I don’t have a clue why you’re arresting me,” Hawkins, a 48-year-old welder, reportedly told police. Later, police said, he claimed: “We were only going to cuddle.”
Hawkins, who is serving a federal prison term, is one of about 20 men who have been arrested locally in recent years in sting operations aimed at child molesters who meet their prey over the Internet.
Police say the men come from various walks of life. One of the most recent suspects — Kollin Roy King, a fifth-grade teacher from the Frontier School District in Hamburg — was arrested last month after arriving for a planned sexual encounter with a 14-year-old boy. The “boy” who agreed to meet him was an undercover FBI agent.
There were no TV cameras rolling, but the local probes are similar to a controversial series of stings conducted on the highly rated “Dateline” television show on NBC. “Dateline” has worked with police on the arrests of more than 200 child predators, who walked into a house expecting to have sex with a 13-yearold but instead wound up trying to explain themselves on national TV.
The men arrested in the “Dateline” stings included a police officer, a teacher, a doctor and a rabbi.
One of the TV stings had tragic consequences last year, when an assistant district attorney from Texas shot and killed himself when police came to his home to arrest him. Police were going to charge the man with using the Internet to solicit sex from an undercover operative working with “Dateline.”
With all the pain and embarrassing publicity that result from such cases, it amazes some police officers that predators keep using the Internet to meet children.
But FBI Special Agent Holly L. Hubert is not surprised. She super-
vises the Buffalo Cyber Crimes Task Force, and she investigates child predators and child pornography users all the time.
“I’d have to say it shocks me and it doesn’t shock me,” Hubert said. “I know these offenders are so sick, they’re like crack addicts. They have this need to feed an addiction to deviant behavior.”
“They have an insatiable appetite for this, and they’ll risk destroying their families and careers to do it,” added Paul M. Moskal, spokesman for the Buffalo FBI office.
The local cases involving such activity include:
• Ranier Gerow, 33, a prosperous Hamburg businessman arrested last June by agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Gerow has pleaded not guilty to charges that he emailed child porn and tried to arrange a meeting in a hotel with an agent posing as a 13-year-old girl.
• William Bloomfield, 46, of Grand Island, sentenced to three years in federal prison in 2004 after admitting he drove to West Seneca hoping for a planned sexual liaison with a 13-yearold girl he met on the Internet. An FBI agent posed as the girl.
His attorney, Thomas J. Eoannou, said offenders like Bloomfield need counseling and treatment, not prison time. He said Bloomfield is a U.S. Navy veteran with a good job, a wife, two children and no previous criminal record.
Eoannou said Bloomfield was only playing out a fantasy and never would have had sex with an underage girl, but a prosecutor pointed out that Bloomfield stopped at a drugstore and bought condoms on his way to the meeting.
• In a case that was not an undercover sting, Mark Friedman, 39, of Andover, N.J., was sentenced in 2004 for using the Internet to arrange a sexual meeting with a 14-year-old girl. An alert security guard saw Friedman kissing the girl in a Cheektowaga parking lot. Condoms and nude photos were found in the car of Friedman, a bank employee who was sentenced to six years and nine months.
Lt. Joseph M. Donohue heads a statewide Internet Crimes Against Children task force, which also includes investigators from the state attorney general’s office. He said he worries that some of the men in such cases may intend to kidnap or kill their victims after having sex with them.
“In 2000, we arrested a state corrections officer, Millard Lonkey, who had gone to Buffalo to meet a 14-year-old girl,” Donohue said. “We found condoms and duct tape in his car. We were worried that he planned to tape up the girl and make her disappear, but he denied that.”
Lonkey was sentenced to at least two years in prison for disseminating indecent material to a minor, a felony.
Leading two lives
It amazes Mark R. Tayler, a supervisor with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, that so many of the men involved in such activities are married with children of their own.
“A lot of these guys lead two lives — the normal life that society expects of us and the secret life, which can include child pornography and enticing children over the Internet,” Tayler said.
Law enforcement officials defend the use of Internet undercover agents posing as teenagers. They say such tactics are needed because many of today’s child molesters use the Internet to meet youngsters, rather than hanging out at schoolyards or playgrounds.
“We have to use the Internet to protect kids from predators on the Internet,” Hubert said. “Whenever we arrest one of these guys, I think to myself, ‘How many times has he done this before? How many other victims are out there?’ ”
But defense attorneys have raised questions about these practices, alleging entrapment in some cases. Federal public defender Timothy W. Hoover recently filed an appeal questioning the constitutionality of the law used to convict Hawkins.
Hoover said Hawkins was essentially convicted of a “thought crime.” He said his client denied that he intended to have sex with the girl he planned to meet.
“[Hawkins] was convicted of traveling in interstate commerce for the purpose of engaging in illicit sexual conduct with a person under 18,” Hoover said. “This federal statute punishes someone for traveling on the road with a bad thought in his head. He never had any actual physical contact with the girl.”
Hoover doesn’t claim entrapment in Hawkins’ case, but the defense lawyer said the use of undercover agents posing as 13-year-olds could cause some men to be enticed into criminal action they never would have committed.
Hawkins was arrested in October 2004 and convicted last year. He is serving a prison term of three years and four months. Hawkins pleaded guilty but retained the right to challenge the constitutionality of the law used to prosecute him.
Entrapment?
In Hawkins’ case, he had a number of Internet and telephone conversations with a 13-year-old Cheektowaga girl. The girl’s father found out and called police. After that, an undercover cyber cop began posing as the girl, using Internet messages to arrange the meeting with Hawkins.
“To say this is only a thought crime would be foolish,” U.S. Attorney Terrance P. Flynn said. “[Hawkins] took action. He called the girl, he communicated with her over the Internet, and he traveled all the way from Montana to have sex with her. The law doesn’t require us to sit back and wait until a sexual assault takes place before making the arrest.”
Flynn rejects the argument that agents masquerading as underage girls or boys create any risk of entrapment. In most cases — such as the pending case of King, the teacher — the defendants have made “lurid statements” in their Internet messages, leaving little doubt about their intentions, Flynn said.
“We prosecute men who go into chat rooms, looking to meet kids to have sex with,” Flynn said. “This issue has been addressed in the courts many times, and it’s not entrapment.”
Hoover said that, in his opinion, the problem of child predators trying to molest children they meet on the Internet is worthy of concern but not nearly as widespread as police claim it is. “You’ve got all these task forces, with relatively few arrests for this kind of thing,” Hoover said. “I think that money could be better spent on educating parents and children about Internet safety.”
The problem is widespread, Flynn said, and it requires both public education and tough law enforcement.The above story proves my point.
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:15 am
When i was at your age (i am 26 now) i use to have a crash on people i knew i can't get in real life. So you are just doing the same thing i think.
You are afraid to be in a real relationship, so you fantasied about something you can't really get. Think about it, do you really want a boyfriend now, or you rather wait?
Don't worry when you will be ready you will find the right guy.
Have fun,
PM me if it is gone worse, or you just need a girlfriend who can blaugh with you
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:05 am
Oh and believe me, you aren't in love.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:24 pm
_-♥-_
You agreed to be a real life slave to a person you don't even know? I understand you gave your loyalty and all, but words are as simple as they are: words. One can act trustworthy in the internet and take everything away from you in real life.
I envy you for your trust, but I think you are mistaken. This may be a simple crush or admiration. Do not, I emphasize, do not fall in love with a person who:
1. has a girlfriend.
2. lives in a different time zone.
You are walking towards the path of tears.
_-♥-_
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