How about Scientology?

[Je Suis La Vie]

A lot of you dont really understand what Scientologists really believe. Maybe you should go to the Source.
Even though it is a lot of propaganda, it is still closer to the beliefs than anything anyone else was saying in this thread.  

[bighairy dog]

I dont care if scientology is a religion or not i dont think it should be practiced ( whatever it is they do) because scientology is a lot like a cult and i believe people use scientology as an excuse to do crazy things. I think scientology would be okay if they kept it to themselves. I also believe that about all religions.  

[Mad Haru]

deppfan

Ok, so here's what Scientology is about:

L. Ron Hubbard came up with the idea that aliens came to earth. They were lizard beings with special abilities and super intelligence. They interbred with humans, and so only some special have these special I guess you could say particles in them. Once you embrace them, and learn what you can do with them and how to control them- only through the Scientlology church- you become a better person, and in a way, transcend to a higher level.

Sounds a lot like the mitochlorians crap brought into the Star Wars universe to try and explain The Force.

And @ Luna- Yes, we do believe in something... evolution, the big bang, etc.

I just remembered something.
Not without proof we don't!  

[Verderbnis]

deppfan

Ok, so here's what Scientology is about:

L. Ron Hubbard came up with the idea that aliens came to earth. They were lizard beings with special abilities and super intelligence. They interbred with humans, and so only some special have these special I guess you could say particles in them. Once you embrace them, and learn what you can do with them and how to control them- only through the Scientlology church- you become a better person, and in a way, transcend to a higher level.
...

I already heard the story and it sounded like a bad science fiction story -_-

That Hubbard dude must have been on bad drugs.

Here is an interview, given by Hubbards son (fromerly Ron Hubbard, now Ron deWolf) about his father given in the year 1983 to an adult magazine. I'll link it only for informational purpose. Link  

[flauterfli]

Xenu
Lisa McPherson
Tom Cruise


I've been delving deeper and deeper into the subject of it, the question of whether or not it is a religion means nothing, the further you get into its past, present, and future ideals. It's incredibly messed up stuff.

After paying up to thousands on average, you will finally learn the "religion" aspect of Scientology: Xenu. Lord Xenu came to earth and infected us with tiny alien beings. The "goal" of Scientology is for their members to become Clear of these beings. To be Godlike, as L. Hubbard's son put it.

How does one become Clear? They will put you through a process of Dianetics, which utilizes many brainwashing techniques, such as staring at someone for about an hour, unblinking, to feel "comfortable with people". You will become devoted to the Church, even closing out friends and family who will not join you in your quest. The Co$ will warn you that you will become suicidal if you leave Scientology, and that you will die if you hear of Lord Xenu before becoming Clear.


Thanks for the link, Verd  

[Verderbnis]

No problem, I read the paper where Ron de Wolfe stated his involvement into this organisation. I think scientology is one of the hugest scams on earth under the coat of religion. There have been papers leaking through refering to the three things you have to do when joining scientology:

1. Make money.
2. Give a lot of it to the church.
3. Make more money.

The basic structure is the same like the racial madness like the Nazis back in their time.  

[AshesFallen]

if I stretched the page, I'll make it a link

I think those who are into Scientology are allowed to, but I have a huge urge to shake them back to reality.

I'm an atheist, and I think Scientology is more like a cult or a group of obsessed fans... like those Harry Potter ones who believe there's Hogwarts and a secret community out there. Of course, I'm obsessed with Harry Potter too, just not to that level. XD  

[Verderbnis]

Well, the good thing about Harry Potter is: everyone still knows it's phantasy. I see obsessed HP fans on a same level like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars fans, they're just fans of it, I have that with certain bands.

Scientology is nothing more than one of the hugest scams in our times and really bad science fiction. I for myself found a racist message behind it, like behind the racist visions of the Nazis back in their time. To excuse their enfocements to non-scientologists they talk about "out ethics", I actually donot inherit those "out ethics" but in that case I evolve some of them. It's not a belief, it's just a scam. or can you tell me which religion contains "Make money. Make more money." as a maxime, too?

They want to undermine the systems to build up a world government. Also their major goal reminds of the borg from Star Trek: Senseless worker drones, for a ruling class.  

[AshesFallen]

I LOVE Harry Potter, but on some of the fan forums, the people scare me... I wish I could believe that they don't actually believe that Hogwarts exist.  

[Verderbnis]

Ok, there are always people who eat every s**t. I mean, there are also people believing in the Cthulu Myth and Necronomicon by H.P. Lovecraft, but they don't inherit a guideline to push their belief unto others, they're just books written for entertainment. If Harry Potter, Cthulu and all that is supposed to be a belief, there would exist something like a guideline found in basically every cult, they're all different but still the same.

Unfortunately the american laws allow every minor cult to get ranked as a religion. All that seperates a cult from a religion is the acknowledgement and notoriety by the majority.  

[Iconoclast Enthusiast]

I think religions are just large cults, anyway. razz

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About Scientology: Those people are scary. You might think that their religion itself is the worst part about them, but Scientology is VIOLENT towards those who expose anything about them or who challenge their 'beliefs.'


http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/scientol.htm
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Commentary/Scientology.htm
http://www.scientology-lies.com/
http://www.skeptictank.org/readdig.htm
http://www.clambake.org/  

[Mad Haru]

I find it funny that there have been no scientologists to defend their 'religion' on here.
To any scientologists that may be reading this, Bite Me.  

[Verderbnis]

Nah, the defending will come from low-ranked victims of that ********! The high ones just will look at them and simply laugh into their hands. The low ones are just little docile creatures, like worms or something like that...  

[Sullen Couch]

Of course, there are the higher ups that actually believe in it, odd as that may be.  

[Verderbnis]

It's quite a working mechanism:

Just feed the weak to the dogs...

...and there we have the mechanism of the radical minority again, there are two kinds of people: the average and the radical and it's always the radicals who rule, because the average mass is easy to handle with certain conditions, most effective tool to manipulate people is fear. You will do anything if someone threatens your family and your life, just to keep them safe!