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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:12 pm
British English isn't real english anymore
there are many other types of english that have evolved. in fact, i know they have different dialects in england.
i think american english is much more phonetic than british english, so it probably evolved that way. it might have also been related to a defiance against britain.

i could say what i'm speaking now is real english, but that wouldn't be true as well.  
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:42 pm
I just read the first page...wow XD XD Gotta say I love the British sense of humor. Nothing's more fun than making fun of people. Has anyone read the funny letter John Cleese wrote about it? I'm posting it here...

Quote:
To the citizens of the United States of America:

In light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. Her Sovereign Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories (excepting Kansas, which she does not fancy.)

Your new prime minister, Tony Blair, will appoint a governor for America without the need for further elections.

Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium," and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour', 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise."
You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra'; you may elect to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you find you simply can't cope with correct pronunciation.

Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels (look up "vocabulary"). Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication.

2. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize.”

3. You will relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out Task #1 (see above).

4. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but to be celebrated only in England. It will be called "Come-Uppance Day."

5. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

6. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

7. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and this is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric immediately and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

8. The Former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling "gasoline") -roughly $6/US gallon. Get used to it.

9. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with mayonnaise but with vinegar.

10. Waiters and waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

11. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer," and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager." American brands will be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine," so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.

12. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in "Four Weddings and a Funeral" was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.

13. You will cease playing American "football." There is only one kind of proper football; you call it "soccer." Those of you brave enough will, in time, will be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).

Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the "World Series" for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable.

14. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.

15. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due backdated to 1776.
Thank you for your co-operation.

John Cleese
 

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:26 pm
My theory; at some point in history, one American who was in the HABIT of sounding out words came along- he must have been powerful/influential to a significant degree- perhaps he was a politician or even a novelist. No one questioned the mistakes of said person so as not to incur his wrath. Otherwise, they might have accepted what ever he wrote as correct because he was such a brilliant storyteller.

"sulphur... 'ph' doesn't make an *efff* sound.. There sulfur."
"programme? What's the extra 'me' there for? That can't be right, they don't even make sounds.."
"alum- aloo- aluminnin- gah!! There. Aluminum "
etc.  
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:46 pm
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Some spelling and term differences (British English on the left, American on the Right)

Aeroplane__________________Airplane
Aluminium__________________Aluminum
Analogue__________________Analog
Analyse__________________Analyze
Calibre__________________Caliber
Capitalise__________________Capitalize
Catalogue__________________Catalog
Cheque__________________Check
Clamour__________________Clamor
Colour__________________Color
Counsellor__________________Counselor
Dialogue__________________Dialog
Rubber__________________Eraser
diarrhoea__________________diarrhea
Doughnut__________________Donut
Draught__________________Draft
Favour__________________Favor
Encyclopaedia__________________Encyclopedia
Fibre__________________Fiber
Centre__________________Center
Theatre__________________Theater
Grey__________________Gray
Humour__________________Humor
Initialise__________________Initialize
Judgement__________________Judgment
Kilometre__________________Kilometer
Maximise__________________Maximize
Manoeuvre__________________maneuver
Mum__________________Mom
Pyjamas__________________Pajamas
Skilful__________________Skilfull
Smelt__________________Smelled
Towards__________________Toward
Tyre__________________Tire

Yeah, those're just a few...


As an American, I can actually say that I use the spellings grey, humour, dialogue, theatre, and analogue.  

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:44 am
For me as a non native speaker it means a lot of confusion. When I was in school we learned BE and later some AE terms and our teachers told us, we could choose which one we use, but we must stick to them.
So if you start a text in AE finish it in AE, but for me it was hard to tell, which word is AE and which BE. And it still is...

I remember when I was young (about 8 and had never had English in school before, because you started learning at the age of 10) I played with my cousin from Canada and I asked to play football and he looked at me like a ghost and I stuttered "Welll. Kick... ball... with foot?" And he said "Oh, you mean soccer". Luckily he did ask and not tackle a little girl^^

Since German is full of Anglicism I think I tend to use AE. In German a lot of word end -er, so it is unusual to write -re. So "Center" for me, please^^

BTW If you ever come to Germany and do not know a word, say the English one. Almost everybody will know what you mean (except for old people) smile  
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:41 pm
I'm also not a native speaker. We were taught at school that when you write something, you should either use completely British or completely American spelling, or else they'd deduct points. Well, I'm not in school anymore, so I don't have to do that. blaugh I mostly prefer British spelling except when it comes to words that have 'z' in it. Like analyze - analyse I use the US version there, because I like letter 'z'.  


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:44 pm
I love British spelling. I use it sometimes when writing, but I'm generally overcome by my American spelling and use "color" instead of "colour". :/
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:49 am


Lol, I read in my Human Geo textbook that the early colonials wanted to sever their ties with the British as much as possible, so they went, "Well, we'll take out the "u" in "-our" words! Ha! Take THAT, you red heads!!!"
 

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:44 am
Wow. That was interesting to read. lol
Personally, I like the US English, but then again, you typically find what you learn when you were younger as the easier one. Although I have to say I love most of the British differences in spelling. Even the different terms...despite my confusion in some books (like torch and flashlight...I was so confused when the author said torch in a book set in the present...I thought they meant a fire torch lol).  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:31 am
There is no such thing as "real" English. American English isn't wrong English, it's just a dialect.  

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:46 am
I'm an author, so I prefer to just type correctly... I hate chat speak, but that's about it.


giv me mny plz <--- n00b's anthem.
 
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:40 am
im from england, and american spelling doesn't bother me.
Its just the ways it's developed over time.  

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:27 pm
DeadSockMonster
I just read the first page...wow XD XD Gotta say I love the British sense of humor. Nothing's more fun than making fun of people. Has anyone read the funny letter John Cleese wrote about it? I'm posting it here...

Quote:
To the citizens of the United States of America:

...

13. You will cease playing American "football." There is only one kind of proper football; you call it "soccer." Those of you brave enough will, in time, will be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).

Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the "World Series" for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable.

...

Thank you for your co-operation.

John Cleese
The very thing you strive for ...

I nearly died laughing when I read that.

Does Irish-English (e.g. Jaysus, 'tis/'tisn't) count?
We have different pronunciation on the same words, there aren't any spelling differences, really. (e.g. better: Ir.: Bettur. Eng.: Bettah)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:30 pm
XxCubeZxX
im from england, and american spelling doesn't bother me.

lol...I'm american, and a lot of times, I prefer English English spelling. Like, when my french teacher said there wasn't really a word for "colorguard", and I used it when writing, I said "colourguard".
For the "grey/gray" thing, it doesn't matter here...actually, i didn't know one was american and one was english...when me and my friends write it, most of us use "grey" as far as i know (I do at least...)
Questions: For the words "faerie" and "vampyre", are they "english" spellings, or just really old or something??

wow...long...sorry...  

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