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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:37 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:23 pm
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spike bomber Musik des Mondes In addition to my earlier point (Abortion should only be used if the mother and child are in danger if the birth takes place at the due date. Or if the child has potential to have a serious, painful defect or disease if the birth takes place.) I would like to point out that if some teenage girl wants to abort an innocent baby because she couldn't keep it in her pants, maybe someone should at least know. Because if you are a teenager having sex, then that's a huge problem there. Rape is entirely different, but even so, are these women aware of how many families dearly want a child? Ok so your saying since there's a bunch of families who want to adopt, a woman who got impregnated by rape should go through even more pain and suffering so one of those families can have a kid.
No, if rape is the case, go ahead and abort if it makes life better for you. Rape is a horrible thing and made even more horrible when a child had to be part of it. But even if a child was conceived due to rape, it is not any less of a human.
And to what I was referring by 'these women' I mean the ones who abort babies because they mess around and 'never meant to have a kid'. If they can't keep it in their pants, they should face the music. I have ZERO respect for people who decide that sex is just something you can throw around (although it makes good romantic comedies in some cases) decide not to face the consequences, then destroy the life of a child by passing it off as a 'parasite; something that wasn't meant to be'.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:24 pm
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I don't think abortion is right, but I believe it should be allowed, but regulated. I think that victims of rape should be able to abort, I also think that children born into pain and no future should be allowed to be aborted. But I do not think that children of stupid, inconsiderate teenagers should be allowed to abort, or anyone else that irresponsible for that matter, and if the parent is irresponsible, then the child should be put up for adoption. Adoption is better than an unfair decision of destiny forced upon a developing life form or "life form to be," just because the person did not think. I think that whether the baby is considered alive or not is not really the question, I think it's that it has the chance to become a life form, with some sort of future - that is unless someone decides to step in and end that future.
And then again, it is also best for a child to be aborted, rather than a child living in pain and hell from angry, messed up families. And also, the birth rates on this planet are just so nuts that maybe abortion should not be regulated for a good few years.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:56 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:41 am
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:26 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:44 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:13 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:23 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:41 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:19 am
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Morwen_2 eyes-the-jonin also, this is going to sound really cruel but I believe that until the baby is in the 2nd trimester, it's not alive. Basically it's a parasite, I know that sounds very cruel, but w/o the mother b4 that it's completely dependent on her, for food, even for blood. I know someone's probably gonna' be really angry about it, but that's just my opinion, you don't have to agree with it, it's just that the whole issue is very grey... The question of "when does a fetus become a human being?" is a very delicate one, and it's one of the main points of discord. I don't agree with you, because I personally think that life begins in the process of fecundation. Without that step, the rest wouldn't be possible. It's just another stage of the human being's development. Would you consider a child less human than an adult, just because it isn't fully developed? Or is someone vegetating in a hospital bed, with organ failure, less worthy of living than someone who is healthy? I don't think so. You don't have to be a "full human" to have a right to live. And please don't call a fetus "parasite". Just because it's dependent on the mother, doesn't make it a parasite, and that dependency doesn't go away after the first trimester. And after birth, a child is still dependent on at least 1 progenitor, and that will last until, say, 30 years old in some cases. And besides, a 1st trimester fetus is not so helpless. It has already won 1 prize: 1st place in the race to fertilize the egg!!! rofl
Ok, lets say that life begins at fertilization. That means that billions of humans die after only a few hours, days, or weeks, naturally, because the fertilized egg doesn't attack, or becomes unattached for whatever reason, (like sometimes when a woman gets her period a few days late, it's because she was pregnate, but it didn't stick.[no pun intended]) Is anyone going to cry over all of those lives ended? No, because they weren't a real life yet, they were a mass of cells that could have been a life, but weren't. A brain, the part that contains our thoughts and feelings, that is what makes us people, and truly alive. Parasite: 1. Biology An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host. 2. A person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others. [dictionary.com scroll down to read the first definition, the second should be up near the top.]So yes, a child is a parasite, as is a fetus. As for people in a vegetative state, (as in their brains are non-functioning) that is for another debate/discussion.
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:23 am
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:56 am
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:04 pm
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I am for the right to abort.
From a cold, and scientific point of view, the world is overpopulated. In some areas, it is underpopulated, such as in Japan. But overall, the levels of population seem to be too much. Science has pretty much evolved to the point that it's too useful. People who would normally have died of a heart attack or stroke are surviving. The elderly live longer than ever before, and that's all well and good, but at the same time, babies are being born. I just think this isn't going to end very well...
And then there are the teenagers that made mistakes. Some of them don't learn. I've known a girl who at the age of seventeen, has had three abortions and still doesn't care about whether or not she'll get pregnant. She can just have another abortion. But then there are others who really did make a mistake and having a child can destroy your life. I don't mean to make it sound so negative, but children are expensive, and if you're barely able to care for yourself, well, the child's future isn't exactly looking too bright either, is it?
My elder sisters both have children. One of them is seventeen now. Her baby is almost three. She regrets getting pregnant, sure, but she loves him no matter what. My other sister is almost twenty, and she rarely has a steady job, her child may be autistic, and she has a tendency to rely on her boyfriends for a home and food.
I think that everyone should have the ability to choose their future. And a child is a future altering decision.
Oh, and sorry for the rambling. :/
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:41 am
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