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Areliana

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:24 am
In australia we're supposed to use the british standard, but americanisms are taking over. And personally, americanisms hurt my eyes and ears... just cos webster (he was the turning point I believe in the development of the american standard) decided to omit letters doesn't mean everybody else has to...

oh and there is a british english in spite of what people say about dialects.. some would call it bbc english, it's like the british equivalent of german's hochdeutsch.

Oh and my biggest pet peeve (as a subway sandwich maker) every shift... it seems like no one can actually speak english anymore (although I must admit, in Sydney there are a lot of residents whose grip on English is tenuous at most)

the word 'Fillet'
a) although derived from a romance language, this is english and we pronounce the 't'
b) even if we did conform to the french pronunciation and leave off the 't' then the 'll' becomes a 'y' sound giving fi-yay ... and how stupid does that sound? so say it right!!!

(rant directed at no one in particular)  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:15 pm
To be honest, what can annoy me at times is when Americans ask me if I've spelled a word wrong such as grey or colour...it's just a little dull to have to repeat myself constantly and remind them that not everyone on Gaia is American.

une_pomme_verte - "faerie" and "vampyre" are the archaic/old english spellings for Fairy and Vampire. Though, I do rather prefer them to their modern counter parts.

Just to add to the ever growing list of spelling and term differences.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:06 am
broken_joker
To be honest, what can annoy me at times is when Americans ask me if I've spelled a word wrong such as grey or colour...it's just a little dull to have to repeat myself constantly and remind them that not everyone on Gaia is American.

une_pomme_verte - "faerie" and "vampyre" are the archaic/old english spellings for Fairy and Vampire. Though, I do rather prefer them to their modern counter parts.

Just to add to the ever growing list of spelling and term differences.

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Yeah same! how do americans spell grey?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:36 pm
Being English I do tend to use the traditional English spellings. That's just what I was brought up to do I suppose.

'American English' doesn't really bother me at all. After all, it's only derived from 'English English', just like our 'EE' is derived from Latin, French, German, Old English, and even Chinese.

If everyone whose language 'EE' is based on began to complain, we'd be in big trouble.

Not that I'm saying you're complaining at all, of course.

mrgreen  

La~Phantom


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:39 am
I'm American, and I realized quite a while ago that I spell a lot words in British English.
On another note, one is not more "proper" than the other, it's a little thing most people call "different dialects"  
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:01 pm
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I just read the first page...wow XD XD Gotta say I love the British sense of humor. Nothing's more fun than making fun of people. Has anyone read the funny letter John Cleese wrote about it? I'm posting it here...

Quote:
To the citizens of the United States of America:

In light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. Her Sovereign Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories (excepting Kansas, which she does not fancy.)

Your new prime minister, Tony Blair, will appoint a governor for America without the need for further elections.

Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium," and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour', 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise."
You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra'; you may elect to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you find you simply can't cope with correct pronunciation.

Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels (look up "vocabulary"). Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication.

2. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize.”

3. You will relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out Task #1 (see above).

4. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but to be celebrated only in England. It will be called "Come-Uppance Day."

5. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

6. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

7. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and this is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric immediately and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

8. The Former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling "gasoline") -roughly $6/US gallon. Get used to it.

9. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with mayonnaise but with vinegar.

10. Waiters and waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

11. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer," and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager." American brands will be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine," so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.

12. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in "Four Weddings and a Funeral" was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.

13. You will cease playing American "football." There is only one kind of proper football; you call it "soccer." Those of you brave enough will, in time, will be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).

Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the "World Series" for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable.

14. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.

15. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due backdated to 1776.
Thank you for your co-operation.

John Cleese


As an American, reading this really offends me. I truly hope the rest of you Britons are not like John Cleese.

And as for the whole language thing...
Does it really matter what differences we have in our languages as long as we can understand each other?
 

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:10 pm
I love the british spelling of things. That may be that I'm half english and live with an english family but still. I use most of the spelling,too. And I have an accent. ;D
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:49 am
IamredMage
Some spelling and term differences (British English on the left, American on the Right)

Aeroplane__________________Airplane
Aluminium__________________Aluminum
Analogue__________________Analog
Analyse__________________Analyze
Calibre__________________Caliber
Capitalise__________________Capitalize
Catalogue__________________Catalog
Cheque__________________Check
Clamour__________________Clamor
Colour__________________Color
Counsellor__________________Counselor
Dialogue__________________Dialog
Rubber__________________Eraser
diarrhoea__________________diarrhea
Doughnut__________________Donut
Draught__________________Draft
Favour__________________Favor
Encyclopaedia__________________Encyclopedia
Fibre__________________Fiber
Centre__________________Center
Theatre__________________Theater
Grey__________________Gray
Humour__________________Humor
Initialise__________________Initialize
Judgement__________________Judgment
Kilometre__________________Kilometer
Maximise__________________Maximize
Manoeuvre__________________maneuver
Mum__________________Mom
Pyjamas__________________Pajamas
Skilful__________________Skilfull
Smelt__________________Smelled
Towards__________________Toward
Tyre__________________Tire

Yeah, those're just a few...

Woah, that sure helped me out, my English teacher kept on complaining that I used both spellings in my work and I was losing marks for that.  

sugarynsweetapplepie


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:00 pm
There are a lot of differences for one reason only; America is not Britian's, nor has it been since 1776. I do think Britians have the correct spelling some of the time, but cultures change, and sometimes things are wrong. Calling American English 'incorrect' or 'wrong' is akin to saying that Mexican Spanish is 'wrong' when compared to Spain Spanish. Things change when countries no longer own others.

Besides, my thought is that if both spellings are accepted by spellcheck on my copy of Word, I am content. The entire concept of a dictionary was made by Noah Webster in the 1700s (If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me) simply to make words easier to understand. For example, the word 'Fly' (as in the little buzzing annoying thing) could be spelled as any of the following: "Flie," "Fly," "Flye," or "Fli." There are probably more that I've missed, but you get the point.

Now, I don't know about you, but a standard of spelling seems simply amazing to me. Sure, there would be no spelling tests, but some people could spell things so different, the word would be illegible and completely nonunderstandable.

I do like the British spelling of "grey" though. It makes more sense.

=D Rant of the day, complete! And I'm not sure it was a rant anyway. I like the fake revocation of American Independence though. That's pretty funny.  
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:42 pm
I'm an American in California, I must say this is all fascinating, but from what I was know, most European languages derive from Latin? I mean, that's what I was taught. Is that not true?  

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:54 pm
Well, I'm a French Canadian, but our English is closer to the British than the Americans... Probably because we were a colony of the British.  
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:56 pm
IamredMage
Some spelling and term differences (British English on the left, American on the Right)

Aeroplane__________________Airplane
Aluminium__________________Aluminum
Analogue__________________Analog
Analyse__________________Analyze
Calibre__________________Caliber
Capitalise__________________Capitalize
Catalogue__________________Catalog
Cheque__________________Check
Clamour__________________Clamor
Colour__________________Color
Counsellor__________________Counselor
Dialogue__________________Dialog
Rubber__________________Eraser
diarrhoea__________________diarrhea
Doughnut__________________Donut
Draught__________________Draft
Favour__________________Favor
Encyclopaedia__________________Encyclopedia
Fibre__________________Fiber
Centre__________________Center
Theatre__________________Theater
Grey__________________Gray
Humour__________________Humor
Initialise__________________Initialize
Judgement__________________Judgment
Kilometre__________________Kilometer
Maximise__________________Maximize
Manoeuvre__________________maneuver
Mum__________________Mom
Pyjamas__________________Pajamas
Skilful__________________Skilfull
Smelt__________________Smelled
Towards__________________Toward
Tyre__________________Tire

Yeah, those're just a few...

That's mostly because of the way the British pronounce, but we Canadians spell it in between the way the British do and the Americans... It's kind of hard to explain...  

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:29 pm
i try to write in good grammer, but its hard sometimes.  
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 1:58 pm
That's fine, your so-called "English English" hurts my brain, too.
(I always thought the american spelling of "skilful" was "skillful", though...)

I spell some words like "grey" and "dialogue" in the British way because I have seen those spellings and I thought they looked better. They're more...poetic. I didn't actually know they were British, though.

I am grateful for this unexpected clarification of my "toward/towards" dilema, though--for the longest time I couldn't figure out which was right, but now I see that they both are.

"Aluminium" is completely hilarious; it makes more sense now why people joke about mispronouncing it. (is it "a-loo-MIH-nee-uhm" in British English, though? I can't tell just by the spelling).  

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:04 pm
Witch Hunter Torran
I'm an American in California, I must say this is all fascinating, but from what I was know, most European languages derive from Latin? I mean, that's what I was taught. Is that not true?


English is kind of a combination of many language sources. Most of the "sciency" words come from Latin or Greek, but the more casual spoken language is derived mainly from the various germanic tongues such as German and Old Norse with a little French thrown in from when it was the popular court language. The "original" English spoken on the island is almost completely unrecognizable to modern English speakers.  
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