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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:09 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:18 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:36 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:54 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:51 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:36 am
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Nadian Abrien Sliver Two of mine were infected at the same time and the two behind them have become infected so I think it's possible to spread it with out the infected one being the lead... I admit that I think it's possible, but I have yet to try it. I've always had the one in the lead be one of the infected ones. I'll have some more EV training to do in the near future so I'm sure I'll be able to play around with this a bit. 3nodding
it IS possible to spread Pokerus without the host-poke being your lead, only it TAKES FORVEVER!
however, i dont raise a pokemon until i put the pokerus onto it
uwith a pokerused poke using a macho brace, EV spread form one battle is mutliplied X4
you use adamant pokerused sableye w/ macho - take down a Machamp (3 atk EVs) - 3 x2(PKRS) X2(Item) - winds out being 12 atk EVs
thats how my book explains it, only they were talking speed for another pokemon
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:00 am
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Aww Heck Nadian Abrien Sliver Two of mine were infected at the same time and the two behind them have become infected so I think it's possible to spread it with out the infected one being the lead... I admit that I think it's possible, but I have yet to try it. I've always had the one in the lead be one of the infected ones. I'll have some more EV training to do in the near future so I'm sure I'll be able to play around with this a bit. 3nodding it IS possible to spread Pokerus without the host-poke being your lead, only it TAKES FORVEVER! however, i dont raise a pokemon until i put the pokerus onto it uwith a pokerused poke using a macho brace, EV spread form one battle is mutliplied X4 you use adamant pokerused sableye w/ macho - take down a Machamp (3 atk EVs) - 3 x2(PKRS) X2(Item) - winds out being 12 atk EVs thats how my book explains it, only they were talking speed for another pokemon Although I have a Macho Brace, I never use it to EV train. It's always a bit faster (and far easier) using the Power items.
For example, let's say that Sableye you just mentioned is going to have max attack, max speed, and some extra HP, and he's infected with Pokerus. Let's also say you have a constant source of pokemon which give 3 attack EVs and 3 speed EVs, to simplify further.
You give vitamins to the Sableye so that his Attack and Speed are at 100 EVs, only 152 more to go in each stat. Okay, that's fine.
Battle the attack-EV pokemon 12 times. Hmmm... okay, you're now at 244 with 8 more to go. You have to go and find one more pokemon that only gives 2 attack EVs. So, 13 battles to max out the attack EVs.
Surely, you must realize that the speed EV pokemon introduces the same, exact problem. Another 13 battles there.
Now, you hunt down a pokemon which gives you HP EVs, another 1 battle.
Total: 27 battles.
27 doesn't seem like a lot. It shouldn't. But, can you do better? Here's how I fully EV trained my Kyogre, recently (special attack instead of attack, of course):
==Choice Scarf Kyogre== (428750) (1584) --Items ----Choice Scarf --Ability ----Drizzle --IVs ----13/1/21/28/29/26 --EVs ----4 HP, 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed --Moves ----Water Spout (Level 80) ----Surf (HM 03) ----Ice Beam (TM 13) ----Thunder (TM 25)
----Training---- ==Vitamins== (10 Calcium, 10 Carbos) hp: (10 * 0) = 0 special attack: (10 * 10) = 100 speed: (10 * 10) = 100
==Gastrodon + Power Anklet== x1 hp: 0 + 2*2*1 = 4 special attack: 100 + 0*2*1 = 100 speed: 100 + 4*2*1 = 108
==Alakazam + Power Anklet== x18 hp: 4 special attack: 100 + 3*2*18 = 208 speed: 108 + 4*2*18 = 252
==Alakazam + Power Lens== x4 hp: 4 special attack: 208 + 7*2*4 = 252 (plus 12 extra) speed: 252 ---------------- Total: 23
Only 23 battles, and it has the *huge* advantage of only needing to know the location of two pokemon instead of five.
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:12 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:09 am
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Aww Heck Okay, Sicne you know the works Nadian two questions: no.1 say i'm trying to train a pokemon for ATK, but the poke is just a lv1 hatchling, and the best place, as you mentioned, being lake Valor, does the EVs gained before the level up carry over when the pokemon levels up mutliple times from one KO? They only receive the fixed amount of EV. So, if you took out a Gyarados, you might level up 5 times, but you'd only gain those two attack EVs (multiplied by Pokerus and Macho Brace to 8, of course.)
Quote: and then: no.2 as you said, Lake Valor is the ebst place you know fo for atk EVs, so usng battles of 2 EV gan for attk, how many battles would it take altogether to complete attack training? Depends. Let me list all the situations.
1. You have not given the pokemon any vitamins, it's holding an EXP Share, it does not have Pokerus
It will take 252/2 = 126 battles.
2. You have not given the pokemon any vitamins, it's either holding a Macho Brace or infected with Pokerus, but not both.
It will take 252/4 = 63 battles
3. You have not given the pokemon any vitamins, it's holding a macho brace and is infected with Pokerus.
It will take 32 battles, but for the last battle you will need to remove the Macho Brace if you don't want to waste EVs.
4. You have not given the pokemon any vitamins, it's holding a Power Bracer and is infected with Pokerus.
It will take 21 battles
5. You gave the pokemon 10 Proteins before you started training, it's holding an EXP Share and does not have Pokerus.
It will take 76 battles
6. You gave the pokemon 10 Proteins before you started training, it's either holding a Macho Brace or has Pokerus, but not both.
It will take 38 battles
7. You gave the pokemon 10 Proteins before you started training, it's holding both the Macho Brace and has Pokerus.
It will take 19 battles
8. You have the pokemon 10 Proteins before you started training, it's holding a Power Bracer and has Pokerus.
It will take 13 battles, but for the last battle you will need to switch to a Macho Brace if you don't want to waste EVs.
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:56 am
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Nadian 8. You have the pokemon 10 Proteins before you started training, it's holding a Power Bracer and has Pokerus. It will take 13 battles, but for the last battle you will need to switch to a Macho Brace if you don't want to waste EVs.
thats way i always train my pokes
i give them the vitamins first, then slap on the EXP-granted EVs,
so 13? oh yeah, Blaze has had that much, no doubt, as for My Sableye, hmm...i'm gonna have to redo that little guy(ahem...train another), he's almost level 30 and he still isnt in the 80's of physical attk
sure sables have moderate atk, but i've seen an adamant sableye have 105 attk at level 30 on the dot, it was when i played sapphire, the lv 10 one i caught was soemwhat a powerhouser
thanks a bunch Nadian
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:37 am
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