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And just for the record, it is not true that nobody can back their beliefs
with real evidence. The Bible is backed by hundreds of ancient documents
and accounts that retell the same stories that the Bible tells.

For example almost all major empires or nations that have existed according
to what the Bible says existed after the Flood one way or another have
ancient legends weather altered or not of a great flood that covered all the
earth. Some of these stories even tell of how only one family survived
via large boat and that lines up with the Bible.

Also, evidence has been found that carbon dating does not work for
dating anything back any further than a few thousand years.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-c14-disprove-the-bible

AND it does not take millions of years for coal and oil to form naturally
because scientists have done so in a much shorter amount of time.

And how could the grand canyon have been made but by a sudden
movement in the earths plates and huge amounts of water?

Also, every evolutionary stage of man
that scientists think are relevent such as the pilt down man and
neanderthal man have been hoaxes fabricated by people.
http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionfraud.html

Also evolution could not have been true because nothing as complicated
as human life or anything that exists right down to molecules could have
came about by accident and especialy not by a big explosion.

please feel free to express your views.

I beleive it's a combination of both. I'm certain we did not evolve from monkies, despite the common ground parts. Netjer, or God, or Whatever Name you wish to call the Divine, made us and the universe. Everything was created, and as time goes, many species evolved to better survive while others either remained the same physically and simply adapted better strategies, and then many other species died out, some to natural occurances, most to human overpopulation and progress. In a way we evolve, but not really physically. Our evolution is through our progress, going from cavemen to businessmen in suits. I don't believe in the flood theory that exists in the bible. Two of each kind of animal. This would cause alot of inbreeding and genetic defects which would drastically reduce and animal's ability to survive in the wild, or even at all. That bit has been proven by science.

I assume you got all of the information that you posted in the first post from the internet? That's why most of it is bogus. And I'll say why:

((First: my opinion is that both happened))

1: There are no hundreds of documents backing the Bible. Truly, there aren't. The Bible was WRITTEN by man, and therefor not the direct word of God. It has probably been altered in major ways by the old people of the Earth.

2: Those stories are based off of the individual first story. It's been proven that there was not a huge flood covering the whole world. There would be evidence of it. Science proves that (and if you have an issue with science, read this: If you want to prove something to someone, you show them an example, right? That's how scientists prove things, by scale or equal experiments) there was no huge world-wide flood. However, the area near the Red Sea did flood hugely in history.

3: Carbon Dating is working on half-lives. So anything that hasn't been destroyed by a few thousand years worth of Environmental degration, would have such small half-lives, that the process couldn't be accurate.

4: What does coal and oil have to do with the Bible, or evolution at all? And further more, do you know the exact preferences that the coal and oil was created (artificially, since man created it)? I think not.

5: It was not made by a plate shift, or a huge amount of water all of the sudden-like. It was made over a long time. A small stream in the ground ended up disintegrating through the sands, and creating the canyon. (Think of letting a hose flow water in the sand or dirt)

6: Have you any proof that they are hoaxes? And why is the relevance of its truthfulness or not relate to the arguments between religion and evolution? People are the ones that make this "evidential" web sites, and are probably not factual at all.

7: For me to discredit this paragraph, I shall show the comparisons between Evolution and Religion.

We evolved from small molecular organisms. God created man from the dust.

The big bang created the Universe. Does the Bible say how he created things? Couldn't it have been a Big Bang that God created and in turn, the universe? And hint: everything is made of molecules, so you can't use it as a complex base, because it's widespread and therefor normal.

Stars and such are made of heat, you can admit to that yes? So how would all of the stars and everything come into existence if it were not in a wondrous explosion?
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As to this "six day" concept, I shall reiterate words spoken at the Scopes Trial, or near it. Who are we to determine how many hours were in a day for God?

That said, how would men know how God created Everything since he wasn't created until the Fifth day? Must it have been a twenty four hour day? Go ahead, when you die, I'll let you confront God about his concepts of Days, and argue with him. Let's see who wins that one, shall we?
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I don't see why people insist on separating the two, Religion and Science. People just like the mystery in Religion, and don't want to add proof through science. And Science-ers don't want to take that leap into trusting in something that isn't proven before they can test and the prove it themselves. It isn't real until it's proven.

yeah, thats kinda how i see it. scientists are doing nothing more than discovering the processes by which things happen. their findings do not disprove the existance of god, they strengthen it by showing the organized way by which the world works. all that organization cant logically be by random accident. Someone/Something had to have set it that way, namly God (by my beliefs, anyway).

Was not the theory of evolution WRITTEN by man? Also all scripture all scripture was inspired by God. And another thing, if evolution is true how you trust your thoughts? Maybe you have a chemical in there backwards.

Scripture is inspired by God. Couldn't man alter the theory of evolution? Scripture can be proven by our obedience to The Law. All wisdom begins with obedience to the Ten Commandments. Why is it hard to believe that God exists and He is Love? I heard countless stories on how people were absolutely lost in life and many wanted to commit suicide. God saved them not evolution.

It is true man cannot alter what has happened on the past but man can alter what we know of the past. I know that the Bible was inspired by God because if it wasn't all that was said will be a lie and God cannot deny himself.

Obedience does not close off the mind to questioning but opens it. Once I started to follow God I wanted to know more and more and I asked Him questions and He answered!

If it is not God that saves them then how are prayers answered? When people are cornered in life they ask for a sign from God and He gives them a sign to let them know that they are there. I ask for signs all the time and I receive. Jesus said "Ask and you will receive." He doesn't forsake anyone except those that rebel. He is Love and Love love us.

Ah...my friend God's name has been forgotten by evolution. What Jesus said was true. I ask for signs and I receive signs. This is the fruit of evolution: coincidence. God watches over us at every moment of our life. Life cannot be based on coincidence but the watchful eyes of God.

Why do you think I am the way I am? Why would I go and teach something I once thought was not true? Why would I spend most of my time for God and the work He assigned me to do than focus on myself and do what I want to do?

God is often misunderstood in many ways. He has said "your thinking is not My Thinking, your way is not My Way." Therefore I don't rely on what I think or believe or what others believe I try to think like God which is why I say what I say.

Who are you to say to me that these signs are not real or that He doesn't answer my prayers? One day I got home from school after having many arguments with my peers, I was very stressed and I prayed to God to show me a message from a book called True Life in God (www.tlig.org) that Jesus wrote and I got a message and you can read it on my profile. He actually says "tell them"! Jesus makes himself low so that He may raise us up! You think it is impossible to talk to God, I know that God is listening.

As for obedience I never ask why do you want me to do this. I ask Jesus to to show me things I don't understand. Does the clay ever say to the potter "why are you making me this way? this way would be better.

Also it is true that no one is perfect; however it is not impossible to be. My friends have noticed the drastic change in my attitude and I still have a long way to go.