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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:18 pm
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Here, let's talk about the HG/SS teams we're planning. If you're not getting one or both of the games, then at least help with our teams?
My team will have a nicknaming theme, as I usually do (Gen 3 used the first syllables in the Pokemon's English name, then repreated (i.e.: Wurple is Wuwu), Gen 4 was literature-themed (Infernape was Goku, Gliscore were Nosferatu and Dracula), and LG were based on characters from books and manga (Poliwrath was Wrath, Doduo was Compton)).
The theme for this game will be songs.
Cyndaquil (Starter): Spin (You Spin ME Right Round)
Chikorita (Traded from D/P): Minogue(? Still working) (Kylie Minogue)
Todadile (Traded, too): Immortal (?) (My Immortal)
Sudowoodo: Gold (Spandau Ballet song)
The other two, I'm still working on. I was thinking of a Smoochum named Ice Baby. Got any suggestions as to whom shall be added?
Discuss.
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:09 am
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Now that you mention teams, I realize I've forgotten to include HM slaves into my team planning. All I knew was that I was going to use a Jynx hatched from an egg sent from Platinum. (Born with Ice Beam + Shadow Ball + Grass Knot + Water Pulse, Modest with 31 Special Attack and 31 Speed.) For double-teams, I'll probably want to boost the level of the starter.
Anyway, back to the HM slave deal... I queries my pokemon program to find potential HM slaves for HGSS, leaving out Smeargle (who has to sketch all of them) and legendaries (since you can't breed them)...
/Users/ekraft/pokemon > pokesearch -i standard -c "hms:hms_hgss * moveset" -c "valid:(size(hms)>3 && ~legendary && name!=smeargle)" valid "size(match)>0" -d match -c "match:{x:pokemon}{value(x, &valid) && size(value(x, &hms) + hms) == 8}" id | name | match ------------------------------------------------------- 6 | Charizard | swampert+empoleon 149 | Dragonite | swampert+empoleon 260 | Swampert | dragonite+charizard+salamence+tropius 357 | Tropius | swampert+empoleon 373 | Salamence | swampert+empoleon 395 | Empoleon | salamence+charizard+dragonite+tropius
I don't think I can set any of those up in short time, so I'm probably going to choose two Mews or something. (I need a quick solution ; my copies could arrive any day now.)
On the other hand, I should see if I can quickly update my program to include other pokemon that can learn Whirlpool. Since Whirlpool was neither a TM nor an HM, the amount of potential candidates could be bigger...
EDIT:
Naturally, even though I haven't updated my program's internal database, I can always use its flexibility to hack it. Copy+Pasta the Serebii Whirlpool attackdex page (just the section on who learns Whirlpool via HM), some simple regex to parse it into something I can use with my program, and creating a function to conditionally add Whirlpool as an HM...
/Users/ekraft/pokemon > pokesearch -i standard -c "hms:hms_hgss * moveset + whirl" -c "valid:(size(hms)>3 && ~legendary && {smeargle, dragonite} != name)" valid "size(match)>0" -c "match:{x:pokemon}{value(x, &valid) && size(value(x, &hms) + hms) == 8}" -c "whirl:({Squirtle, Wartortle, Blastoise, Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Psyduck, Golduck, Poliwag, Poliwhirl, Poliwrath, Tentacool, Tentacruel, Slowpoke, Slowbro, Seel, Dewgong, Shellder, Cloyster, Krabby, Kingler, Lickitung, Rhydon, Kangaskhan, Horsea, Seadra, Goldeen, Seaking, Staryu, Starmie, Tauros, Gyarados, Lapras, Vaporeon, Omanyte, Omastar, Kabuto, Kabutops, Snorlax, Dratini, Dragonair, Dragonite, Mew, Totodile, Croconaw, Feraligatr, Sentret, Furret, Chinchou, Lanturn, Marill, Azumarill, Politoed, Wooper, Quagsire, Slowking, Qwilfish, Sneasel, Corsola, Remoraid, Octillery, Mantine, Kingdra, Miltank, Suicune, Tyranitar, Lugia, Mudkip, Marshtomp, Swampert, Zigzagoon, Linoone, Lotad, Lombre, Ludicolo, Pelipper, Exploud, Makuhita, Hariyama, Azurill, Aggron, Carvanha, Sharpedo, Wailmer, Wailord, Barboach, Whiscash, Corphish, Crawdaunt, Feebas, Milotic, Spheal, Sealeo, Walrein, Clamperl, Huntail, Gorebyss, Relicanth, Luvdisc, Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Piplup, Prinplup, Empoleon, Bibarel, Rampardos, Buizel, Floatzel, Shellos, Gastrodon, Garchomp, Munchlax, Finneon, Lumineon, Mantyke, Weavile, Lickilicky, Rhyperior, Palkia, Phione, Manaphy, Arceus} == name)?{whirlpool}:{}" -d match id | name | match ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 | Charizard | omastar+bibarel+ludicolo+blastoise+feraligatr+poliwrath+kabutops+golduck+empoleon+swampert 9 | Blastoise | salamence+charizard+tropius 55 | Golduck | charizard+tropius+salamence 62 | Poliwrath | tropius+charizard+salamence 139 | Omastar | charizard+tropius+salamence 141 | Kabutops | charizard+salamence+tropius 160 | Feraligatr | salamence+tropius+charizard 260 | Swampert | salamence+charizard+tropius 272 | Ludicolo | tropius+salamence+charizard 357 | Tropius | feraligatr+golduck+blastoise+swampert+ludicolo+empoleon+omastar+kabutops+poliwrath+bibarel 373 | Salamence | feraligatr+swampert+empoleon+blastoise+kabutops+ludicolo+golduck+omastar+poliwrath+bibarel 395 | Empoleon | salamence+charizard+tropius 400 | Bibarel | tropius+charizard+salamence
Each of those pokemon can learn these HMs:
id | name | hms ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6 | Charizard | cut+fly+rock smash+strength 9 | Blastoise | rock climb+rock smash+strength+surf+waterfall+whirlpool 55 | Golduck | rock climb+rock smash+strength+surf+waterfall+whirlpool 62 | Poliwrath | rock climb+rock smash+strength+surf+waterfall+whirlpool 139 | Omastar | rock climb+rock smash+surf+waterfall+whirlpool 141 | Kabutops | cut+rock climb+rock smash+surf+waterfall+whirlpool 160 | Feraligatr | cut+rock climb+rock smash+strength+surf+waterfall+whirlpool 260 | Swampert | rock climb+rock smash+strength+surf+waterfall+whirlpool 272 | Ludicolo | rock climb+rock smash+strength+surf+waterfall+whirlpool 357 | Tropius | cut+fly+rock smash+strength 373 | Salamence | cut+fly+rock smash+strength 395 | Empoleon | cut+rock climb+rock smash+strength+surf+waterfall+whirlpool 400 | Bibarel | cut+rock climb+rock smash+strength+surf+waterfall+whirlpool
This means I can use my normal Bibarel + Tropius combination. I'll try that.
So, Jynx + Starter + Tropius + Bibarel.
(For the starter, I'm leaning towards... Cyndaquil, but if I choose Totodile then rival will use Chikorita (which won't like Jynx's Ice Beam, not one bit.) But Grass Knot and Water Pulse will probably work just fine.
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:36 pm
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:55 am
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